Could you tell me if Guy Motors ever made their
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own engine for their ides and if so what size was it, and when they stop making it?
Guy did produce an engine for their vehicles between the end of the Second Id War and 1953. It was called the 4GE was available in 3.3-litre 53 bhp form or litre 58 bhp form. Both versions were ol engines and they were used in the Guy n, Wolf and Otter models of those years.
An ex-army Ford platform lorry has been fitted with a locally constructed fixed jib and is used mainly as a ikdown/recovery vehicle.
he vehicle is taxed on a £5 per year fund licence and the driver does not an hgv licence although the vehicle ver 3 tons unladen. is the law being :en? How does one define a breakdown! .very vehicle and a mobile crane? It appears to us that the vehicle you have described does not come within the fling of the term "mobile crane" for the oses of taxation and therefore should not axed at the reduced rate.
-.:hedule 3 of the Vehicles (Excise) Act 1971 ifies a mobile crane as being a vehicle deed and constructed as a mobile crane
is used on public roads only either as a e in connection with work being carried n a site in the immediate vicinity or for the use of proceeding to and from a place re it is to be used as a crane: and hen so proceeding neither carries nor hauls load than such is as necessary for its proon or equipment."
'e believe therefore that as it should not axed at this rate the alternatives are to ate the vehicle under a trade licence or pay 'till goods vehicle rate of duty.
owever. in order to be able to obtain a a licence, you will first have to satisfy the I authority that you are a motor trader or 7:le tester who is defined in that Act as ws:
Vlotor trader means a manufacturer or irer of, or dealer in, mechanically propelled :des; and a person shall be treated for the oses of this section as a dealer in such 3les if he carries on a business consisting holly or mainly of collecting and delivering hanically propelled vehicles, and not Ming any other activities except activities as inufacturer or repairer of, or dealer in, such ;les:
Jehicle tester means a person, other than 3-tor trader, who regularly in the course of 3usiness engages in the testing on roads
of mechanically propelled vehicles belonging to other persons .
Having done this the vehicle must then meet the definition of a recovery vehicle, also set out in the Act as follows, if it is to be legally used under the trade licence: "a vehicle on which there is mounted, or which is drawing, or which is carrying as part of its equipment, apparatus designed for raising a disabled vehicle wholly or partly from the ground or for drawing a disabled vehicle when so raised, and which is not used for the conveyance of goods, other than a disabled vehicle wholly raised by that apparatus, and which carries no other load than articles required for the operation of, or in connection with. that apparatus or otherwise for dealing with disabled vehicles."
Your vehicle may well come within this definition provided you particularly observe that part of the definition which refers to the carrying of no other load.
So far as hgv driving licences are concerned the driver of this vehicle should hold a licence of the appropriate class unless his current ordinary licence was issued before February 2 1970, in which case he can continue to drive the vehicle an this licence until its renewal date. From then on he will need to hold both an ordinary and an hgv driving licence.
It seems certain that the vehicle could not in any way be described as engineering plant which by meeting the definition for such would mean exemption to the need for an hgv driving licence.
One other point to bear in mind is that if the local authority feels that the vehicle should be taxed at the normal goods vehicle rate according to its unladen weight and if they are not prepared to issue a trade licence because the definitions applying to such licences are not met then the vehicle will need to be specified on an operator's licence in the same way as any other conventional goods carrying licence.