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25th February 1915
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10d. Per Mile Run for a Three-tonner.

[2262] (Competitive).—We advise you to let the other man have the continuation of the work at the rate which you mention. There is nothing in it, and you are, of course, taking risks all the time you are working on a, haulage job. We expect he will get tired of it in a month or so, and learn the wisdom of abstention.

Driving Licences for Certain Steam Wagons.

[2263] (Bradford).—We.recommend you to obtain a licence (price 5s. per annum) for the steersman. The point is arguable, but we believe that the balance of argument is now on the side of the contention that both men may equally be regarded as driving, one because he controls the power, and the other because he controls the direction. It is better to pay than to risk the annoyance and expense of defending.

A Margin for Contracting.

[2264] (Burnley).—You want to see an income of at least 60 per cent, more per mile run, both light and loaded, than is indicated for the type of wagon in which you are interested on our sheet of average costs for owners who provide their own loads. Furthermore, you must see a revenue of 22 10s. as a minimum per day out on the road, or, if a trailer is used, of 23 10s. The Sentinel steam wagon, as to which you inquire, should give you complete satisfaction.

This Two-loaner, or That ?

[2265] (Acids).—Of the two chassis which you mention, the Burford is the one of which we have more knowledge, and we consider it a good lorry. On the other hand, delivery is likely to be difficult. We would recommend you, in the category of two-tonners, to include :— Albion Motor Car Co., Ltd., Scotstoun, Glasgow.

Siddeley-Deasy Motor Car Co., Ltd., Parkside, Coventry. We can give other names if you wish to have them.

General and Rough Contracting in Yorkshire.

[2266] (Pateley Bridge).—We have mailed, for your information, one of our standard sheets of working costs. A steam vehicle will undoubtedly be better for the class of work to which you refer ; on the other hand, you might be able to pick up a second-hand London motorbus chassis at about 2250, inclusive of tires. We recommend a steam cart or steam wagon of the kind which is constructed by Mann's Patent Steam Cart and Wagon Co., Ltd., Pepper Road Works, Hunslet, Leeds, or a steam lorry by the Yorkshire Commercial Motor Co., Hunslet, Leeds. Both works are reasonably near to you.

The German-tire Situation.

(22671. (Somerset).—As the law stands, subject to the decision of the House of Lords if an appeal, which is likely to be made, goes forward, you are liable to pay forthwith. On the other hand, we think it is highly improbable that you will be pressed by the Continental people until the matter of there being or not being an appeal is settled. Of course, whatever the decision is hereafter, you will have to pay in due course, although perhaps not to the Continental Co., but, possibly, to the Crown on its behalf. The company is undoubtedly an assembly of Germans, and German in every sense of the word except name. In regard to the sales of Continental tires, we believe it had huge stocks in this country when war broke out, but we also understood that these were practically seized by the War Office. The War Office, we are told, has been paying money regularly to the company. A large proportion of the turnover which you mention

is due to accruing sums in respect of additional mileage for tires sold on mileage before August last.

Data re Motor Haulage.

[2268] (Birmingham).—We have had pleasure in mailing one of our standard sheets of working costs. If the Birmingham Library has a. file of THE COMMERCIAL MOTOR, you will perhaps find the best general article dealing with haulage considerations in our issue for the 15th October, 1908. That issue was specially addressed to haulage contractors. At the present time, we should recommend you to give a preference to a rubber-tired steamer. There was a nine-pa,ge article on "Contractors' Road Haulage by Motor' in our issue of the 12th June, 1913.

British Tires from British Works.

[2269] (Suffolk).—The. British tire companies with all-British shareholders, so far as we know, and, of oourse, excepting a few possible odd foreign shareholders, are as under :— Avon India Rubber Co.. Ltd., Melksham, Wilts. The Commercial Tyre Co., Ltd., 22, Albert Embankment, S.E.

Dunlop Rubber Co., Ltd., Aston, Birmingham. De Nevem Rubber Tyre Co., Ltd., Earlsfield, S.W.

Chas. Macintosh and Co., •Ltd., 39, Victoria Street, S.W.

Midland Rubber Co., Ltd., Ryland Street, Birmingham.

North British Rubber Co., Ltd., Castle Mills, Edinburgh.

St. Helens Cable and Rubber Co., Ltd., Warrington.

Shrewsbury and Challiner Tyre Co., Ltd., .A.rdwick Green, Manchester.

S. Stevenson and Co., 59, Logan Street, Glasgow.

Wood-Milne, Ltd., Preston.

Upkeep of Three Horses for 6000 Miles of Work is £100 a Year. What Price a Motor Lorry?

[2270] (Dalbeattie).—We refer you to our sheet of working costs (mailed); it may be of some service to you, for comparative purposes. Of course, if you cannot work a, motor so much an 400 miles in a week, the incidence of driver's wages will be more per mile run, and the same will apply to insurance, interest and rent. Fuel, lubricants, tires, maintenance and depreciation are practically proportional to mileage. As you do not state whether your three horses serve one van or two vans, we are unable to assess your weekly wages bill. We also wish to put before you the point that the 2100 per annum to which you refer as the upkeep for these animals, inclusive of 218 per annum depreciation, may not include charges for harness repairs, van repairs, farriery and veterinary services, proportion of rent, rates and taxes, stable labour (if any beyond the driver), insurance and sundries. We note that you get 6000 miles of running per year, and this is at the rate, of 4d. per mile on the 2100 stated. We are inclined to think that by the time you have added driver's wages and other incidental charges it will be found by you to reach the more usual inclusive figure of 61431. per mile run for a one-horse van. You should be able to run a two-ton motor lorry at that inclusive figure, after covering maintenance and depreciation, and a 30-cwt. load, to which you refer, at about Gd. per mile. We think you should succeed in picking up a good secondhand vehicle, with six years life left in it, for about 2300. The working life of a commercial motor, if it be fairly treated and supervised, can safely be placed at 120,000 miles. A small advertisement in this journal should produce offers.


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