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North Western Battle Over Excavated Materials
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THE hearing of an application involving the conveyance of excavated materials, adjourned from September 6, was resumed before the North Western deputy Licensing Authority, Mr. A. H. Joiliffe, at Liverpool last week and again adjourned. Mr. J. Edward Jones, appearing for four road objectors, told the deputy LA that he was still confused with the evidence on sub-contracting and surprised at the grant of short-term licences. The conditions of these licences were to carry excavated materials within 15 miles for named customers.
J. Pickavance Ltd., St. Helens. was seeking to extend the conditions of four vehicles on B licence and to add 21 tippers (112:1 tons) with conditions: "Sand, soil, stone, fly ash and other excavated materials within 15 miles." The objectors were Barton Haulage, F. Presccitt, F. Briggs and H. H. Crutchley.
In cross-examination, the applicant company's office manager, Mr. G. Wolsey, was asked why more detailed information was not available in respect of work done by the fleet, particularly that relating to vehicles on short-term B licences, previously on C licences. Mr. Wolsey admitted that some of that now submitted had not been completed until the night before. He was indefinite about the composition of the certificate from the accountants referring to "gross earnings ". Mr. Jolliffe said this matter required clarification.
Mr. Jones took the witness through a spot check of the log sheets and asked why some vehicles were shown as doing' little or no work for hire or reward. Mr. Wolsey explained that one contractor in particular had kept putting off the order for vehicles, saying the site was not ready.
The sales manager of C. H. Harvey, builders' merchants, Liverpool, Mr. J. Donnelly, said they supplied vehicles to Taylor Woodrow, but owing to the shortage had refused to quote for some jobs. He had made it known to the RHA in Liverpool and Manchester that he had work for any available vehicles, despite which none of the objectors had made an offer. In cross-examination he said that although they had put four vehicles on B licence, they had about 70 vehicles working for them. Their contract with Taylor Woodrow was to find vehicles for excavated materials.
Mr. E. Done, of Samuel Rogers Ltd., builders and plumbers, Wrexham, spoke of their interest in a number of contracts in Skelmersdale New Town and to the convenience in getting excavated material • removed with tippers having delivered shale to the site They undertook haulage for large building contractors and sub-let it to the applicant company; payment for one contract had averaged £700£900 per week. Holland, Hannen and Cubitts (NW) Ltd. put out tenders for haulage and Rogers, quoted a rate to Pickavance. Mr. Done said they had never found anyone cheaper.
In his cross-examination Mr. Jones described the situation as " fantastic " and revealed that a letter supporting a shortterm application was from •Holland, Hannen and Cubitts, saying they employed Pickavance. Mr. J. Backhouse, for the applicant, submitted there was no weakness in doing this as Rogers were acting in the role of agent.