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E. MIDLAND CONTRACT SWITCH MADE SOLELY BECAUSE OF RATES
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RATES payable to hauliers in January, 1962, are still in existence today and there was no possibility of them being increased, the East Midland deputy Licensing Authority Mr. A. R. M. Ellis, was told by a witness from the English China Clays Group during an application heard at Nottingham last Friday.
The witness was supporting an application by Hamblins Suppliers Ltd., of Leicester, applying to convert 10 vehicles, on Contract A licence, with English China Clays, to open A licence with a user: " Mainly quarry materials and concrete products, England, Scotland and Wales." A decision was reserved.
Mr. W. C. Yorke, director and secretary of the applicant company, said that the sole reason for the application was because his company had been unable to obtain an increase in rates from the contract customer. 'Whilst they are sympathetic ", he said, "they, in turn, are facing a competitive market and are unable to grant an increase." They had sanctioned the application in order that the vehicles could be utilized for backloading, which would give a more economic operation.
Questioned by Mr. A. J. F. Wrottesley, for British Railways (objecting), Mr. Yorke said that the intention was to carry substantially outwards for the English China Clays Group. At present his company had no specific customers in mind for backloading from the London area, Yorkshire and the North East, he said. It intended to use clearing houses.
Mr. Yorke told Mr. J. P. Bray, objecting for British Road Services, that he had not given much thought to the return load aspect.
Mr. I. M. Webster, local transport manager of English China Clays, said that production was on the increase. If there was an increase in haulage rates, his company would not be able to pass it on to its customers.
The deputy Authority: "You are in a fortunate position to be able to dictate what you pay. If I go to my tailor I cannot say that I do not want an increase on what I paid for a suit two years ago." Mr. Webster said that a big producer in the Nottingham area dictated the market value of products. Asked by the Authority to whom he was referring, Mr. Webster said, " Hulland Products ".
Mr. Webster said that, on occasions, when he was unable to obtain sufficient transport he was forced to use B.R.S., whose rates were 15 per cent higher than those paid to Hamblins.