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Llandudno Coach Traffic Gained "By a Trick" says Applicant

10th January 1958
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Which of the following most accurately describes the problem?

ACALL for a "properly licensed through service from Leeds and Knottingley to Llandudno was made at 'Leeds, on Monday, by Wallace Arnold (Tours). Ltd. Mr. Malcolm Barr, assistant managing director, told the Yorkshire Traffic Commissioners that cAisting operators had gained their traffic "by a trick or by a contrivance."

Wallace Arnold were applying to run from Leeds, with a picking-up point at Bradford, and from Knottingley, with picking-up points at Pontefract, Castleford, Normanton, Wakefield and Royston. On both services, setting-down points would be at Prestatyn, Rhyl, Abergele, Colwyn Bay and Llandudno.

The Leeds application was opposed by Lancashire United Transport, Ltd., Cros-ville Motor Services, Ltd., Ribble Motor Services, Ltd., Yorkshire Woollen District Transport Co., Ltd., West Yorkshire Road Car Co.; Ltd. (on behalf of the Northern Pool operators), North Western Road Car Co., Ltd., Rogers Motor Coaches and British Railways.

Five Objectors Opposition to the Knottingley application came from L.U.T., Yorkshire Woollen, North Western. Yorkshire Traction and British Railways. The services were to be operated on Saturdays only. from the last Saturday in June to the last Saturday in August, and only return fares were being asked for.

The maximum number of vehicles would be two, increased to four on the last two Saturdays in July and the first three Saturdays in August. Mr. Barr said 1.050 seats, or 30 round trips, were °needed.

The application had been lodged. because of public need. as there were no directly licensed through services. Wallace Arnold were already express operators to many coastal areas, and they had some title to the licences. as they were running day excursions there. In Llandudno their " stake " was the same as that of the joint operators.

CI-ins-examined by Mr. G. P. Crowe. for British Railways, Mr. Barr suggested that the railways expected people to go from outlying districts to railway centres, although nobddy else expected it.

Operated Before 1930 He told Mr. J. Evans, for Rogers Motor Coaches, be did not dispute the fact that Rogers operated to Llandudno before 1930. or that they had since been refused a licence on appeal.

. In a heated cross-examination by Mr. W. Hargrave, for all the road objectors, except Rogers, Mr. Barr contended that the application had been made so that the Commissioners could determine the balance between road and rail.

"Let us have a properly licensed service." he demanded. "We may take traffic at present carried by your clients on linked services, but they got it by a trick or by a contrivance." The Pools were carrying traffic without a licence, because although they were licensed to carry from Leeds to Manchester, there was no licence for Leeds to Llandudno. • At the end of the first day of what was expected to be a three-day hearing, Mr. Hargrave said he took strong exception to some of the answers he had received from Mr. Barr.

The Commissioners also had before them a Leeds-Llandudno express-service application from Rogers Motor Coaches.

L.T.E. REPLY TO PAY CLAIM

inA REPLY to the London basmen's claim for a 25s.-a-week wage increase was given by the London Transport Executive on Wednesday afternoon. Talks between representatives of the L.T.E. and the Transport and General Workers' Union were still going on when The Commercial Motor closed for press.

Previously the demand had been rejected outright. but Union leaders, under pressure from London members. agreed to present it again.

MORE GLASGOW TRAMS GO

THE busiest cross-river route in Glasgow—King George V Bridge —is to lose two more tram services in favour of buses. Mr. E. R. L. Fitzpayne, Glasgow Corporation's transport manager, hopes the conversions will be completed by the end of the year. Eventually the bridge will carry no trams.

This will complete a programme of abandoning 450 older tramcars, which was recommended five years ago.

105 MORE BUSES THIS YEAR

A NOTHER 105 buses arc to be 1-1 added to the fleet of Bombay

Electricity Supply _ and Transport undertaking, according to the 1958-59 budget drawn up by Mr. M. G. Monani. general manager. The estimates show surplus revenue of 003,000, but it is pointed out that the transport department is worried by falling returns.

Mr. Monani says bus fares will have to be revised, and unremunerative tram routes abolished, if this department is to discharge even its statutory obligations.

NEW SALOPIA EIGHT-DAY TOUR

A NEW eight-day tour of Central and 1-1 South Wales has been added to this year's programme by Salopia Saloon Coaches, Ltd., Whitchurch, Salop. The Brighton tour has been modified.

The full programme of 10 eight-day tours is as follows:—

Central Highlands and Royal Deeside.

19 19s.; Western Highlands, £19 19s.; Northern Highlands and Loch Ness, £22 I Is. 6d.; Bournemouth. £17 17s.; South Devon and Cornwall. i17 6s. 6d.: Brighton. £17 17s.: Northern Devon and Cornwall, £18 7s. 6d.: Cornwall and North Devon. £18 7s. 6d.: Yorkshire coast and moors. i17 17s.: Central and South Wales. £19 8s. 6d.


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