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'A Gilbertian situation'

11th March 1966, Page 48
11th March 1966
Page 48
Page 48, 11th March 1966 — 'A Gilbertian situation'
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WO charges could be raised by a subsidiary company for low-loader haulage work undertaken for associated companies, said Mr. E. T. Taylor, at the Transport Tribunal on Wednesday. He represented A. Gunn (Wales) Ltd., of Llysfaen, Nr. Colwyn Bay, who appealed against the refusal of a C-to-11 licence switch for a low-loader artic conditioned to carry civil engineering and road making 'plant for Associated Gunn Group companies within 60 miles.

Respondents to the appeal were Pickfords Ltd., represented by Mr. R. M. Yorke, and four private objectors, represented by Mr. G. H. P. Beames.

Mr. Taylor said that the group parent company were plant hirers based at Altrincham. They had established a number of financially autonomous subsidiary companies. The directors of the group company served as directors of the offshoot companies. Without a B licence, said , Mr. Taylor, it was not possible for the Welsh company to charge the Altrincham company or A. Gunn (Northern) Ltd. for haulage work done, though in the reverse direction charges were raised. The directors felt this to be inequitable.

Continuing, Mr. Taylor said the Welsh company was not a subsidiary in the legal sense and could not take advantage of the provisions of section 180 of the Act. The relationship was that of siblings, rather than parent and child. He thought that associated companies should not be looked at in the same light as unrelated companies.

The president, Mr. G. D. Squibb, asked Mr. Taylor if he would define the term "associated companies" to justify carriage for firms employed on the same site. Mr. Taylor said he would not; he used the term as it was employed at the earlier hearings.

Mr. Squibb said the case seemed to amount to two brothers Gunn wearing bowler hats being unable to charge two brothers Gunn wearing deerstalkers. "Why couldn't free use of the vehicle continue", he asked, "since operations were under the full control of the Gunn brothers?" Mr. Taylor agreed that it was a Gilbertian situation and he conceded that the companies could rearrange matters to take advantage of section 180. The appeal was dismissed.


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